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The next potential predator arriving at our house in Ocean County, N.J. is telling the truth when he says he doesn't have a car. Today, instead, he's in a catering van that police say he stole this morning.
Frag: That's our target in the white van.
He's here for sex with a 13-year-old. Casey our decoy tries to wave him in.
Frag: He did wave back to the decoy!
But he drives away.
Lieutenant Mike Nevil: Something he saw scared him and he took off. He was traveling the wrong way on a one-way and riding on the shoulder trying to get away.
But he doesn't get far. Police arrest 32-year-old Savio Noronha down the road.
Lieutenant Mike Nevil of the Ocean County Prosecutor's Office gets a call the next day from a New York City Police Officer about the van Noronha was driving.
Nevil: They had a stolen report on that particular vehicle. And it turns out that he, I don't know if it was a former employer, but he had access to the vehicle keys and took the vehicle for himself to come down here and meet the child.
Our investigation in the Garden State is turning out to be a busy one. We're about to have two men in the house at the same time.
Frag: We have a lot of guys that should be here or very soon.
Here comes 29-year-old Jeremy Keister. He's driven an-hour-and-forty minutes to get here. Casey our decoy waves him in.
Decoy: He pulled up. His lights turned off. So I figured he was getting out. And then his lights turned back on, so I wasn't sure if he was going to leave or not. Then he came around the corner.
He sets his car alarm and then heads straight for the side door.
(Hidden camera)
Decoy: How's your drive?Keister: It was all right.
Decoy: Oh, that's good. That's pretty far you came, huh.
Keister: It was.
Online using his own name as his screen name, “jeremykeister” makes a date for sex with a girl he thinks is 13. He clearly admits he knows what he's doing is wrong.
(Chat transcript)
jeremykeister: so u want to have sex
Decoy: yah
Decoy: u?
jeremykeister: only if u do
Decoy: yah
jeremykeister: I do not force that
Decoy: u dont seem like u would
jeremykeister: is wrong enough for me to have sex with a 13 year old
Casey: He was nervous that something was going on. Because when he walked in the house, he walked in and froze. He stood there. He wouldn't go any further.
Decoy: I made you some brownies. You want some?
Keister: No.
Decoy: Are you sure?
Keister: Yeah.
Decoy: Why not?
Keister: No.
Keister: I don't think I should be here.
Decoy: Why, no one's home with me?
Keister: What's that?
Chris Hansen: Would you come over here for a minute? I'd like to talk and do me a favor, take your hands out of your pockets.
Keister: Sure.
Hansen: Come on over and have a seat. Long ride, huh?
Keister: Yes, it was.
Hansen: Please, sit down. What was your plan tonight?
Keister: Nothing. Just to hang out.
Hansen: Hang out with who?
Keister: Just a nice girl.
Hansen: And how old is that nice girl?
Keister: She's 13.
Keister, 29, tells me he's a luxury car salesman then as I start to read some of his chat log he suddenly interrupts me.
Hansen: Too bad you're not older. Not legal for being with a guy.
Keister: Uh-huh (affirm).You don't have to tell me. I know who you are, so…
Hansen: You know who I am?
Keister: Yes.
Hansen: Who am I?
Keister: You should be Chris Hansen.
Hansen: I am. So you've seen the show before?
Keister: I have seen your show.
Hansen: So even after seeing the show, you still chose to come over here.
Keister: I did.
Hansen: And what were you expecting here tonight?
Keister: Just to, no, really, just chat
Hansen: Did you think at all that maybe you're walking into a “To Catch a Predator” investigation?
Keister: I was very hesitant on things, yes.
But he didn't seem hesitant when he was chatting online with a girl posing as a 13-year-old.
Hansen: You asked her if she had sex with her old boyfriend. 'Did it hurt?'
Keister: Uh-huh (affirm).
Hansen: 'Did you bleed?'
Keister: Uh-huh (affirm). Uh-huh (affirm).
Hansen: What is your bra size?
Keister: Uh-huh (affirm).
While Keister has been answering questions inside, we get word that another man is only blocks away.
Matt: Red Nissan pickup truck, heading north to our location.
Casey gets ready to wave him in. He's 43-year-old Michael Murray. Online he sent naked pictures of himself to a girl posing as a 13-year-old. Later he asks the decoy if she wants to have sex with him, but he wants it to be her decision.
Casey: Frag gives the okay, "Come let him in."
Decoy: Hey!
Casey: He had his McDonald's bag. He was all excited. Came walking in.
Hansen: Hey, why don't you come in over here? We're having a little conversation. Please join us.
Murray: What did I do wrong?
Hansen: Just come here. We'll chat for a minute. Come on in.
Murray: No, I'm leaving. Alright.
Hansen: I'd like to talk to you.
Murray: About what?
Hansen: About a couple things.
Murray: I'm leaving. I'm sorry. I didn't know what was going on.
Hansen: Why don't you explain that to me?
Murray: No.
After the 43-year-old makes a quick exit, police arrest him and try to keep him quiet but Michael Murray cannot seem to stop crying.
Back inside Keister knows what has just happened outside, and is getting worried.
Keister: I know what's in store for me outside that door, correct?
Hansen: Well, that's not up to me.
Keister: Well, I've seen the show.
Hansen: You know, obviously, who I am.
Keister: I do.
Hansen: Chris Hansen.
Keister: Uh-huh (affirm).
Hansen: Dateline NBC.
Keister: I do.
As Keister prepares to leave, he seems to find one thing good about his predicament.
Keister: It's nice to meet you.
Hansen: Thank you (laughter).
He gets up and heads out the door, right into the arms of police waiting outside.
Police: Police. Get down. Get down.
Police: Get down on the ground.
Police: Down on the ground. Don't resist, put your hands on your back.
Stay tuned as the parade of potential predators continues from men in their early 20's...
Donnelly: Now I am gonna be branded as a loser for the rest of my life.
…to this man in his golden years.
Hansen: What's a 60-year-old guy doing this?
Terry Warner: It's to some extent entertainment.
Hansen: Entertainment.
Warner: Sexual entertainment.
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