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Frag: “Shinster” should have strawberries, whipped cream and other surprises.
During our investigations we find potential predators can be pretty generous.
Decoy: Hey!
Tom Shin: Hey!
Decoy: How are you?
Shin: Good.
This man is a regular Santa Claus.
Decoy: What'd you bring me?
Shin: Well, I got the strawberries.
Decoy: Oh, perfect.
Shin: Yeah, and here's a surprise.
Decoy: A surprise?
Shin: Uh-huh (affirm, laughter).
Decoy: Aw, thanks.
Shin: Hope you like koala bears.
Decoy: Yeah, thank you (laughter).
He's 36-year-old Thomas Shin, here to meet the 12-year-old girl he was chatting with online. It was really a decoy from Perverted Justice.
Decoy: He wanted to give me a high five. So I kind of completely dissed him. (chuckle) He was like, "Oh. Okay, maybe not." (chuckle)
Using the screen name “shinster007” he talks about kissing her passionately, and guess what that might lead to?
(Chat transcript)
shinster007: …kiss you down your neck, ubdress you and caress your sweet breasts and kiss them too
Decoy: awww really?
shinster007: yeah
shinster007: I'd get undressed too
And he's got more surprises for our decoy.
Shin: And I brought a DVD because there's, like, some singers on here that I think you might like.
Decoy: Oh, cool.
But there was something he didn't bring, he says he will on his next visit.
Decoy: Did you bring any condoms or anything?
Shin: I was thinking like, you know, today was definitely like kind of get to know each other a little bit more and then definitely next time I could bring them.
Decoy: Oh, okay.
Shin: Yeah.
Decoy: I wasn't sure you know. All right, well I'm going to go get myself something to drink. I'll be right back, ok?
Shin: Okay, all right.
Chris Hansen: Some strawberries and whipped cream and chocolates and stuffed animals? Boy, you got it all going on, don't you?
Shin: Oh, wow.
Hansen: Why don't you have a seat right over there, please.
He says he's a court administrator for the state of New Jersey.
Hansen: And how old are you?
Shin: I mean, I'm 24.
Hansen: Twenty-four. Are you sure about that?
Shin: Yes, you're probably going to check my ID, right?
Shin: I'm 36, sir.
Hansen: Thirty-six. Okay. And how old is the girl you came to visit?
Shin: She said she was 12.
Hansen: Young enough to be your daughter.
Shin: Right.
Hansen: Why are you even talking to a 12-year-old anyway?
Shin: I'm a very lonely guy.
Hansen: You're a lonely guy.
Shin: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Hansen: There's no people your age.
Shin: I tried different personals sites, and it's just like they never, they think I'm too short or they think, like, an Asian guy is just going to be, like a nerd or a geek.
Hansen: So you figured you'd try another category?
Shin: Well if…
Hansen: The 12-year-old category?
Shin: Well.
Hansen: Now what was your plan for the strawberries and whipped cream?
Shin: I guess in a flirtatious way to…
Hansen: A flirtatious way?
Shin: …maybe have a piece of strawberry in my mouth, and then she'd…
Hansen: And have her to do what?
Shin: …bite, bite off it or something…
Hansen: Bite off of it.
Shin: Right.
Hansen: So you were going to kind of make out using the strawberries and the whipped cream.
Shin: Yeah.
Hansen: With a 12-year-old girl.
Shin: Uh-huh (affirm).
Hansen: That was your plan right?
Shin: Uh- huh.
He admits he thought it was strange chatting online with a girl so young that's why he says he asked her if she'd ever seen the Dateline show.
Shin: But like I told her, I, I wasn't planning on any sex. That's why I didn't bring any condoms.
Hansen: Well not, not this visit.
Shin: Right.
Hansen: But what if I hadn't been here and the 12-year-old girl was here and you got along and you, you ate the strawberries and sprayed whipped cream on each other and, you know, some clothes came off? What do you think would've happened?
Shin: Well to be honest, I mean not that it's right. I would've just made out and…
Hansen: Just made out.
Shin: …and told her, like…
Hansen: We'll have to wait till next time when I have condoms.
Shin: Right.
Hansen: Well you've seen the show, so you know that I'm Chris Hansen.
Shin: Right.
Hansen: Right, with Dateline NBC.
Shin: Right.
Hansen: And if there's anything else you'd like to tell us now would be a good time. If not, you know, you can take your stuff and go run out the door you came in.
And just as he's seen it happen on TV, when he leaves the house and goes out the front door, police are waiting.
Police: Police, hands up.
And there are more men on their way bearing gifts.
Mitchell: That's him, that's him.
Frag: He's parking. She waved, and he's gonna park it looks like.
You're about to meet our oldest visitor, a 60-year-old engineer for a major phone company.
Casey: We had like a five minute back and forth, "No you come," "No, you come." And then I got him halfway up the hill, and I was like, "Oh, look at the fish."
He's been chatting online with a girl posing as a 13-year-old. Using the screen name “nj_dom_4_f,” he wastes no time bringing up sex and later gets more specific.
(Chat transcript)
nj_dom_4_f: want me to get between your legs now
Decoy: yea
nj_dom_4_f: and kiss u as u feel me on top of u
nj_dom_4_f: and I take your hand and wrap it around my c---
Decoy: wow
He also tells her he'll bring a webcam, candles, a bra and a thong.
After weeks of describing online the different sex acts he wants to perform on the decoy, “nj_dom_4_f” suddenly says he needs to talk to his lawyer. Just as he's about to leave to meet her he tells the decoy according to his lawyer they can't do anything.
Decoy: Come, sit. They're people just come on the beach. It's fine.
Terry Warner: No, I got to, I got to go.
Decoy: Come on.
Warner: I got to go.
Decoy: It's okay. People walk on the beach all the time. Because it's nice out.
Hansen: How are you?
Warner: Good.
Hansen: Talk to you for a minute. Give me, take, take your hands out of your pockets.
Warner: Okay.
Hansen: What are you up to tonight?
Warner: Nothing. I was, I was not doing a thing.
Hansen: Not doing a thing.
Warner: No.
Chris Hansen: Now, I've read your chat log.
Warner: I know. We-- I went overboard on that. And--
Chris Hansen: Overboard.
Warner: Yeah. And I told her I can't do anything. And I did something wrong. And I admit it. And I checked into it. I can't-- can't do anything with her. I-- I told her that I wouldn't--
Chris Hansen: What do you mean you checked into it?
Warner: I talked to a friend. A lawyer.
Chris Hansen: Oh, you talked to a lawyer.
Warner: Yeah. I--I'm not going to get in trouble with-- with any young girl.
Chris Hansen: You're not? You talk in great and graphic--
Warner: I--
Chris Hansen: Detail about being naked together. About performing specific sex acts on her.
Warner: Yeah. And I know that was-- was wrong. And I told her I can't-- I can't do it. I can be her friend. Her dad. If it looks like--
Chris Hansen: It's a little creepy, I’ve got to tell you.
Warner: Well, but-- but her da-- she kept on saying her dad sucks.
Chris Hansen: So that makes it okay for you to say--
Warner: Well, I--
Chris Hansen: "I want you to be my girlfriend first. We can have sex. And then I'll be your dad? I'll take you out shopping." Well, here's what it sounds like.
Warner: Yeah.
Chris Hansen: Here's what it sounds like. It sounds like her were grooming-- a young teenage girl. Into a relationship that will become sexual.
Warner: Right … and I can see how you said that.
Chris Hansen: I mean, this is not a short chat, by the way.
Warner: I know.
Chris Hansen: This goes on for days.
Warner: About a month we've been chatting.
Chris Hansen: What's a 60-year-old guy doing this?
Warner: It's ener-- to some extent entertainment.
Chris Hansen: Entertainment.
Warner: Sex-- sexual entertainment.
Chris Hansen: Do you see how you crossed the line from fantasy to reality? When you got in your car and drove her to meet this girl?
Warner: No. because I was not going to do anything. I was going-- I-- I was going to be a friend. And that was--
Chris Hansen: A friend. A 60-year-old man was going to be a friend. After saying ‘I'm hard.’ And can—
Warner: Well--
Chris Hansen: ‘Can-- do you want to feel me between your legs.’ What-- what kind of a friend is that?
Warner: Well, a friend that wasn't going to do anything--
Chris Hansen: ...a grooming predator kind-of-friend. Did you bring condoms?
Warner: No. absolutely not. Check me out.
But he does admit to bringing a lot of other things.
Chris Hansen: You brought a webcam.
Chris Hansen: And what else is in the car?
Warner: I-- I got the candles that I said I was going to--
Chris Hansen: Candles.
Warner: … and-- and I got the-- the bra that she wanted.
Chris Hansen: A bra.
Warner: Right. I know it looks bad, but-- you know--
Chris Hansen: Looks bad? It is bad. (laughter)
Hansen: What does that say about what you intended to do?
Chris Hansen: Well, what do you think ought to happen to you?
Warner: I think I've learned a lot right now.
Chris Hansen: You learned a lot, really? Well, there's something you have to know. And that is I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. And we're doing a story on adults who try to meet kids on the Internet for sex. Now, if there's anything else you want to tell us, we'd like to hear it. If not--
Warner: No.
He's completely unaware that police have been waiting along side the house ready to arrest him.
Police: Police. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Get down. Get on the ground.
And when we come back -- a man with a dark past rides hours to meet a young girl home alone.
Chris Hansen: There was a sexual act between you and 14 year old girl?
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