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    >>> august 29th, 2005 and forever changed the city and this country. more than 1,000 people died. 80% of that city was flooded when the levees were breached. mayor ray nagin was thrust in the national spotlight as he struggled to handle the disaster. now after a year of leaving office he wrote a new book " katrina 's secrets, storms after the storm." ray nagin , good to see you again.

    >> you, too, matt.

    >> it's a pleasure. this is katrina , probably the most written about, talked about, argued about, analyzed storm in american history . so what are the secret wes don't know?

    >> well, matt, you know, after i got out of office, i had a chance to go back and look at this story. and it's amazingly complex. so i tried to bring my experiences, the front row journey that i had, i interact we'd just about every level of government. so i try and bring that perspective.

    >> you are very honest and open in this. you do not spare criticism. you blame president bush , fema director michael brown and others for slow federal response . in the book you write this, quote, the million dollar question is why didn't they take effective action immediately? was it partisan politics , were there racial considerations, my humble opinion is that it was all of the above. now, this is that kanye west moment here, ray. you know you remember president bush in the interview he did with me and in his book that there was any consideration of racist.

    >> i look at the response that happened during katrina . i look at subsequent events like there was some fires in california, and it was a much dicht response, a much better response. now, i'm not telling you that president bush was a racist or what have you. but i think race and class and politics played in just about every aspect of this disaster.

    >> on the political front, it's no secret, doesn't have to be a katrina secret, you did not have a very good working relationship with the governor of louisiana at that time. as a matter of fact, when she ran for office you crossed party lines and you supported her opponent bobby jindal . when you called to bring the news to her, she said, according to you, quote, there will be hell to pay . do you think that that actually contributed enough friction to where she was uncooperative with helping you and the city of new orleans ?

    >> i don't know about that but i think there was some residuals. our relationship was not the best. but there were some things going on above me that i think contributed to her hesitancy more than anything. arguing on the act passed way back who knows when.

    >> president bush worried that a republican president coming into a state with a democratic governor and a largely african-american population and declaring marshal law basically would be viewed very badly.

    >> yeah, but americans were suffering. i thought that at that particular point in time the president, in my opinion, should have stepped in, categoryized this as a catastrophe and do what he had to do to bring in troops.

    >> in a radio interview you did, i think, three day afters the storm hit, you started to talk about the response. i just want to play you that clip of that radio interview.

    >> don't tell me 40,000 people are coming here. they're not here. it's too doggone late. now get off your [ bleep ] and let's do something and let's fix the biggest [ bleep ] crisis in the history of this country.

    >> you had reached a tipping point. what was it that put you over the edge ?

    >> well, i was sitting in new orleans and i was watching the people suffering. i kept getting promises and nothing was going to happen. and then i was listening to these radio interviews where they were saying that everything was okay in new orleans . you were covering it. your network was covering it. people knew that it was different. so i just had had enough. and my temper took over.

    >> and even as i sit across from you, ray, and at the time as mayor you had your critics.

    >> oh, yes.

    >> and there were people who said that he was part of the problem, not the solution. so i know you admit in the book that you made mistakes.

    >> absolutely.

    >> what was the biggest mistake you made?

    >> it was a catastrophic event . we all made mistakes at every level of government. the thing that i worry about and i think about the most is could i have called a mandatory evacuation much earlier. it was the first one in almost 300-history. i had eight- to ten-year window overnight i could have called it.

    >> do you think you could have changed the scope of the suffering?

    >> i'm not sure. it was overnight, so most people were preparing to leave that next morning anyway. but it was a window that i think about a lot.

    >> former new orleans mayor ray nagin . ray, it's always good to see you.

    >> self published on amazon.

    >> " katrina 's secrets."

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updated 6/20/2011 6:50:10 AM ET 2011-06-20T10:50:10

When Hurricane Katrina slammed into New Orleans on August 29, 2005, the city changed forever. Mayor Ray Nagin was thrust into the national spotlight as he struggled to handle the unfolding disaster. Nagin, who left office last year, describes the aftermath of the storm in his new book, “Katrina’s Secrets: Storms After the Storm.” Read an excerpt.

The next day the White House officials advised us that President Bush’s speech would take place at nine pm in front of St. Louis Cathedral in Jackson Square in the French Quarter. It seemed odd to us that they proposed this speech at night, in complete darkness. Power was not yet restored in this part of the city. There were certain buildings that were back on the grid but for the most part the French Quarter was still in a blackout. However, as we soon came to learn, when the U.S. Government puts its collective mind to something, magic happened, darkness or no darkness.

First thing that morning the military and other technicians arrived and were everywhere in preparations for the televised speech. By nightfall, St. Louis Cathedral looked better than Cinderella’s Castle at Disney World. All we needed was a spectacular fireworks display and Mickey Mouse would have been all smiles. When I tell you that the place was well lit; moths and other flying bugs burst into flames whenever they got within a few feet of the huge lights that were rigged up. The light and dark contrast was stunning.

… The feds brought all kinds of fancy, expensive equipment as if they were lighting up New York’s Times Square. It was clear the intent was to portray to the world that the city was already back on its feet. The dark side, the mass deception part of this recovery was now taking things to a new level. It was now fully illustrated that the feds could do anything, including making a dead city look magically alive.

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I just happened to see the President several minutes before show time and he was extremely confident. He proudly proclaimed, “Mr. Mayor, you’re going to like my speech. This is going to be good.” I just nodded and said, “Sounds good Mr. President, I can’t wait to hear it.” I then moved to a reserved seating section that was just off to the side from the Presidential podium. Some of my staff sat with me along with the Governor, her husband and key advisors. We took our seats and soon it was announced over a loud speaker, “Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States”. Amazingly, he sounded like the same voice who announces professional boxing matches by shouting in rhythm, “Let’s get ready to rumble!”
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… Once the President’s speech was over, within minutes it was semi-dark again as though someone flicked a switch that turned off the sun. The President immediately exited and the military technicians packed up their stuff. Within a few hours the place was in total darkness again. They even took the temporary lights and generators that were used to light up Jackson Square. We were not offered these valuable pieces of equipment so we could better see key areas of the city at night. The show was over and it was now time to get back to reality. The Disney-like magic left almost as quickly as it arrived. Once all of this became clear, we headed back to the command center to further discuss what we had just heard and seen. The general consensus was the speech sounded too good to be true. We would just have to wait and see what would really happen.

... Regrettably, Hurricane Katrina left us on a quarantined island of sorts where we were surrounded by evil and ill intentions. First our neighbors in Jefferson Parish secretly pumped their floodwaters into a breached levee further flooding Lakeview and the city’s core, at least twice. Next Gretna officials armed with machine guns and attack dogs stopped suffering people in the Convention Center from marching on a federal interstate. All the marchers wanted to do was walk peacefully on an elevated expressway in desperate search for much needed food, water and adequate shelter. And then we had St. Bernard officials block a critical road by the lower ninth ward right before Katrina hit that created a barrier for escape and impeded floodwater drainage. They would subsequently pass an ordinance that prohibited people of color from renting in St. Bernard. Then they repeatedly violated the federal fair housing act by cancelling all post-storm low income housing developments in their area.

This clearly demonstrates that our neighbors were not very neighborly when it really counted. They along with others helped make an intolerable Katrina experience akin to being in hell without ice water. The level of selfishness and insensitivity shown was unbelievable, insulting, and horrifying. I doubt anyone of us could have ever prepared ourselves psychologically for some of the man-made impediments we experienced after the storms. Regardless of the heartlessness, hatred and coldness faced from within and without we still had very important work to do and that was to rebuild one of the greatest cities in the world, New Orleans. We were determined to press on, come hell, high water and inordinate self-interests.”

From "Katrina's Secrets: Storms After the Storm" by C. Ray Nagin. Copyright © 2011. Reprinted by permission of CreateSpace.

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